TRIGGER WARNING Salafi Watch. Everyone Get In.

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Keep an eye on all those people and any other Salafis on this forum. They may act noble but are just snakes in the grass.

Take a look back home. The ICU was noble in defeating warlords to promote peace but the minute they lost power, many turned into homicidal/suicidal maniacs that became worse than the warlords themselves! This is why any ideology from the KSA, since it was established by the house of Saud, is incompatible with Somalis and must be removed from our community.

Keep an eye on all Salafis and report any of their extreme views that are designed to entice people to follow Islam in "the right way". As if the madhabs are somehow incapable of guiding Muslims... the arrogance. Every caliph for 1000 years followed those schools of thought.

Salafis are nothing but snakes in the grass. Keep an eye on them. Especially those who are liberals. They want you silenced so I suggest you reciprocate.
 

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Keep an eye on all those people and any other Salafis on this forum. They may act noble but are just snakes in the grass.

Take a look back home. The ICU was noble in defeating warlords to promote peace but the minute they lost power, many turned into homicidal/suicidal maniacs that became worse than the warlords themselves! This is why any ideology from the KSA, since it was established by the house of Saud, is incompatible with Somalis and must be removed from our community.

Keep an eye on all Salafis and report any of their extreme views that are designed to entice people to follow Islam in "the right way". As if the madhabs are somehow incapable of guiding Muslims... the arrogance. Every caliph for 1000 years followed those schools of thought.

Salafis are nothing but snakes in the grass. Keep an eye on them. Especially those who are liberals. They want you silenced so I suggest you reciprocate.
Abu bakr Umar Uthman Ali followed madhabs of people that were born after them ?
 

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Ibn Taymiyyah said (d.728): “There is no criticism upon the one who makes manifest the Madh-hab of the Salaf, and ascribes himself to it, and affiliates himself to it [by saying: I am Salafi], rather that ascription is accepted from him by consensus for indeed the madh-hab of the Salaf is nothing other than the truth.” (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 4/149)

Ibn taymiyyah is house of saud guys
 
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@DreaRY @CaliphofCamden @Adeer Ruckus @Zebra and the Arabic user.

Also... @DhegoLibaax for suggesting that they become a mod :drakelaugh:

Edit: don't watch the last one but :ROFLMAO:

The way you know the ex-Muslims who are waging war on Muslims is they constantly attack Islam but always hide behind terms like "Wahabi" or "Salafi", "extremists". How to easily identify them? Just look at their obsession.

Another thing, the overwhelming majority of the MODs of this forum are either ex-Muslims or their liberal puppets who accommodate their constant blasphemy.

With respect to "Salafi" Muslims in Somalia, they very much run the country. All of the businesses are overwhelmingly owned by them, and vast majority of them are opposed to groups like Al-Shabaab.
 

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The way you know the ex-Muslims who are waging war on Muslims is they constantly attack Islam but always hide behind terms like "Wahabi" or "Salafi", "extremists". How to easily identify them? Just look at their obsession.

Another thing, the overwhelming majority of the MODs of this forum are either ex-Muslims or their liberal puppets who accommodate their constant blasphemy.

With respect to "Salafi" Muslims in Somalia, they very much run the country. All of the businesses are overwhelmingly owned by them, and vast majority of them are opposed to groups like Al-Shabaab.
If Salafis run Somalia, then it's safe to say that this ideology is poison. Also, you yourself went back on vacation and said you have no faith in the people as they're too cruel.

So, from your own words, we can conclude that this ideology is both too cruel and self-destructive. I rest my case.
 
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Some people think you can easily point the fingers at a Muslim that you don't like his views and FBI would jump on it. There are rules in this country, where the law enforcement has to have a reason that you're about to commit a crime before they can come after you. Expressing views that you don't agree with doesn't put anyone in trouble. One has to be engaging in a violent act and then engaging that violent act in order to be taken down.

If people can be thrown to jail for their views, all of the MAGA crowd would've been in jail by now.
 

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Abu bakr Umar Uthman Ali followed madhabs of people that were born after them ?
The four madhhabs came from the Sahaba. There are chains of who taught these scholars and whenever we mention ibn taymiyyah, you cannot forget imam Ahmad bin hanbal who was taught by imam shafi'i who was influenced by imam Abu hanifa and imam malik.

All you guys wanna do is break the chain of teachers, elevate Ibn taymiyyah above the rest, and insult everyone in your way. No thank you.
 

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The four madhhabs came from the Sahaba. There are chains of who taught these scholars and whenever we mention ibn taymiyyah, you cannot forget imam Ahmad bin hanbal who was taught by imam shafi'i who was influenced by imam Abu hanifa and imam malik.

All you guys wanna do is break the chain of teachers, elevate Ibn taymiyyah above the rest, and insult everyone in your way. No thank you.
You're clearly ignorant. Four madhabs came from tabieen. And they said not to follow their opinion when it goes against Qur'an and sunnah
 

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Some people think you can easily point the fingers at a Muslim that you don't like his views and FBI would jump on it. There are rules in this country, where the law enforcement has to have a reason that you're about to commit a crime before they can come after you. Expressing views that you don't agree with doesn't put anyone in trouble. One has to be engaging in a violent act and then engaging that violent act in order to be taken down.

If people can be thrown to jail for their views, all of the MAGA crowd would've been in jail by now.
I'm talking about a gateway ideology to wahhabism that destroyed somalia for over a decade. Not wanting anything to do with that is something that should be criticized?

Also, since when have Somalis behaved normal? This is a race of people who always act on impulse and choose extremes. This is why somalia is the only nation to be "battling terrorism" for over a decade when there's only 5k enemy combatants on flatland and everyone knows who they are.

So yeah, no to Saudi knowledge. Bye bye Salafism.
 
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If Salafis run Somalia, then it's safe to say that this ideology is poison. Also, you yourself went back on vacation and said you have no faith in the people as they're too cruel.

So, from your own words, we can conclude that this ideology is both too cruel and self-destructive. I rest my case.

I never referred to "Salafi" Muslims in my comment. The "Salafi" men are hard-working and would never ask you shaxaad. They never walk-away from their children. As a matter fact, they literally keep the whole country afloat. All of the major companies such as Hormuud, Telesom. Golis, SomTel, and many others are owned by them. Most of the Somalis who donate to Somalia's IDPs (internally-displaced peoples) are these businessmen and women. Go and see it for yourself instead of throwing gibberish comments against them.
 
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You're clearly ignorant. Four madhabs came from tabieen. And they said not to follow their opinion when it goes against Qur'an and sunnah
Well who taught the tabieen? The Sahaba. Good lord...
 

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The four madhhabs came from the Sahaba. There are chains of who taught these scholars and whenever we mention ibn taymiyyah, you cannot forget imam Ahmad bin hanbal who was taught by imam shafi'i who was influenced by imam Abu hanifa and imam malik.

All you guys wanna do is break the chain of teachers, elevate Ibn taymiyyah above the rest, and insult everyone in your way. No thank you.
Funny thing is people similar to you blame hanbali fiqh for "Wahhabism" so you just constantly shift blame
 

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Well who taught the tabieen? The Sahaba. Good lord...
Imām ash-Shāfi’ī (rahimahullāhu ta’ālā). He said: “If my speech differs with the speech of the Messenger of Allāh (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam), then throw my speech against the wall and take the speech of Allāh’s Messenger (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam).”

Imām Mālik Ibn Anas (rahimahullāhu ta’ālā) said: “Everyone’s speech is either accepted or it is rejected, except for the companion of this grave.” And he pointed towards the grave of the Prophet (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam).

Imām Abū Hanīfah (rahimahullāhu ta’ālā) said: “If a hadīth comes from Allāh’s Messenger (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) then I accept it completely and without any objection. And if a hadīth comes from the companions of Allāh’s Messenger (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam) then I will accept it with a complete acceptance. And if there comes speech from the Tābi’īn, then they are men and we are men.”
 

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I'm talking about a gateway ideology to wahhabism that destroyed somalia for over a decade. Not wanting anything to do with that is something that should be criticized?

Also, since when have Somalis behaved normal? This is a race of people who always act on impulse and choose extremes. This is why somalia is the only nation to be "battling terrorism" for over a decade when there's only 5k enemy combatants on flatland and everyone knows who they are.

So yeah, no to Saudi knowledge. Bye bye Salafism.

Al-Shabaab is a death-squad group whose leaders engage in every crime act possible that is outside of Islam. All of the Muslim scholars in Somalia such as Sheek Gacameey, Sheekh Cumar Faaruuq, Sheekh Nuur Baaruud, Sheekh Bashiir Axmed Salaad (Rahihumullah to all of them) and many others opposed their actions and extremist ideology.

You're throwing around accusations without any facts at your disposal.
 
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