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Big Y DNA test needed from certain clans

Interesting thread made by reformed J because of this new sample.

Sinai origin of E-Z813?

There's a new basal E-Z813 sample. Although he didn't put a flag, he designated himself with avl, Eastern Egyptian Bedawi Arabic, the dialect spoken by nomads in: the Sinai peninsula and the Negev desert. It'd be interesting if he continues to be basal at E-Z813. In such a case there'd be...
www.somalispot.com


Malawax said:
He is from Eastern Egypt.
The situation could become more intriguing if the Egyptian and Saudi samples under E-Y55058 were converted to T2T.
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What do you think would happen?
 
Bulletproof said:
Here you go bro



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Reason for asking:
BY8048: According to the Y Chromosome Consortium (YCC), BY8048 is/was one of the SNPs defining E-Y17859. However, neither YFull nor FTDNA seem to list that SNP as defining any branch.

Y546744: This SNP was removed from my list of private SNPs. I'm curious why it's no longer considered private.

A21511: I'm curious about this SNP because it is old (Haplogroup AOO-T according to YCC). However, I haven't been able to find it anywhere else.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

PS: I am positive for all three
 
Bulletproof said:
Interesting thread made by reformed J because of this new sample.

Sinai origin of E-Z813?

There's a new basal E-Z813 sample. Although he didn't put a flag, he designated himself with avl, Eastern Egyptian Bedawi Arabic, the dialect spoken by nomads in: the Sinai peninsula and the Negev desert. It'd be interesting if he continues to be basal at E-Z813. In such a case there'd be...
www.somalispot.com




What do you think would happen?
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This is an interesting sample. Initially, I thought it might branch off with the Palestinian sample, but it appears it will remain in the paragroup.
Currently, his BAM isn't T2T, perhaps this has something to do with YSEQ. I hope he upgrades because his sample could potentially establish a parent branch for one of the existing branches.

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Malawax said:
This is an interesting sample. Initially, I thought it might branch off with the Palestinian sample, but it appears it will remain in the paragroup.
Currently, his BAM isn't T2T, perhaps this has something to do with YSEQ. I hope he upgrades because his sample could potentially establish a parent branch for one of the existing branches.

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Damn it, should have been T2T. What’s wrong with Yseq 😡 Weird company. Let me try and email him after his sample is finished with the analysis. He probably won’t understand English and the meaning of T2T or even worse he might have his PM option blocked 🤣
 
Yfull replied

The tree renewal is expected around the end of April or beginning of May.
 
@Malawax weren’t you going to upgrade the Madhibaan Gorgaarte to T2T?
 
I downloaded my 23andMe DNA relatives a while back, and after digging into the data, I'm ready to share some insights with you.

Here's an overview of the findings:
  • Total relatives: 857
    • Gender breakdown: 449 women, 408 men.
    • Relatives who opted not to share DNA information: 233.
    • Relatives with no Somali ancestry or unrecorded Somali data: 5.
      Relatives with at least 1% Somali ancestry: 619 (302 women and 317 men).
Here's a breakdown by the percentage of Somali ancestry.
Relatives who are at least 1% Somali:
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Relatives who are at least 25% Somali:
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Relatives who are at least 50% Somali:
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Relatives who are at least 75% Somali:
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Relatives who are at least 90% Somali:
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Furthermore, all my relatives who have at least 97.4% Somali ancestry belong to the E-V32 haplogroup:
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This is now live on SomaliY feel free to go and conduct your own analysis. It is interactive, don’t be afraid to click/tap on the bar chart and table, you can also adjust the Somali Max/Min percentage using the slider.
For the best experience, I recommend using a desktop, laptop, or tablet.

23andMe Relatives

somaliy.com somaliy.com
 
ASC to all.

I want you to check you mobile yfull site. On my phone, i can see a yfull update (Not on my PC)

Our Grand Awoowe is now 3000 years.(E-Y18629)
The new Super clade is also 3000 years (E-Y484733)
My Awoowe is now 850 years (E-Y163949]
Bulletproof Awoowe E-BY8081 is 1000 years.

Sorry @Bulletproof your clade is still at 350.


Disclaimer: Don't know if this is a glitch or real..
 
Koombe. said:
ASC to all.

I want you to check you mobile yfull site. On my phone, i can see a yfull update (Not on my PC)

Our Grand Awoowe is now 3000 years.(E-Y18629)
The new Super clade is also 3000 years (E-Y484733)
My Awoowe is now 850 years (E-Y163949]
Bulletproof Awoowe E-BY8081 is 1000 years.

Sorry @Bulletproof your clade is still at 350.


Disclaimer: Don't know if this is a glitch or real..
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Let me digest this :mjgrin:

It’s crazy :lab-cooking:
 
The “supposed” Darood lineeage E-Y163949 is now 850 years old.

The branch with the Hiiraab samples is 1000 years old. Has the potential to get younger. Brand new Duduble sample is on the way so it could improve accuracy

Awoowe Samaale that used to unite majority of E-V32 Somalis is now 3000 years old. Used to be 2600

The Awoowe of MJ, Sabdi and Forculus is now 1000 years old

The supposed new “Hawiye” branch that connects Hiiraab with MJ and Murusade is 3000 years old. Kind of disappointed 🤣

The super branch that connected Habar awal, Jiiraan Koombe with us E-Y18637 guys could be the reason why the age has increased. Must have been the main driving factor.
 
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I have to pay for return shipping for nebula, I can’t send it via the post box like other kits
 
gacale said:
I have to pay for return shipping for nebula, I can’t send it via the post box like other kits
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Yes I did the same. Only USA people have it lucky. Rest have to pay shipping.
 
Awoowe E-Y18629 is only 1802 years away from me. The 3000 year old TRMC is driven by Mudulood, MJ and other clans that accumulated a lot of SNP because of multiplying in population in a very short time. @Malawax what do you think?

Sabdi and forculus
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@Mcmoud72 @Koombe. check “age estimate” . What do you get for E-Y18629
 
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@BluSkee J-Haplogroup also had an update where ours got younger. The Tumaal-Madhibaan relation are getting closer. This changes the timeline when the current relation between the two restarted.
Here is the old and new version
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Unfortunately, the Madhibaan E-32 had no changes due to the lack of a T2T update. I will try to contact the brothers again, but unfortunately, they were not active on social media.

Muse did change, however, as the two brothers have formed one clade family with another brother at the top. I'm not sure if he was Muse or Tumaal.
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Bulletproof said:
That’s a 200 year old drop.
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it might go down if i update mine soon.
 
Karl said:
@BluSkee J-Haplogroup also had an update where ours got younger. The Tumaal-Madhibaan relation are getting closer. This changes the timeline when the current relation between the two restarted.
Here is the old and new version
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Thanks for pointing that out haven’t checked! I’m wondering if this is permanent or temporary as the live feed is the same as b4?

J-Y179455 YTree

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Have you found another person from your jilib you can test? That would help with understanding the connections better. So far for the J1 we have 3 Tumaal, 1 confirmed Madhiban which is your kit, and the Reer Duad who have not confirmed they are Madhiban.

We have another Reer Daud J1 that wants to upgrade on FTDNA but he is one of the Reer Daud that says he is not Madhiban. We need a Reer Duad elder to sort this out man😂.

Was Madhiban an actual person or was it a town like you have suggested that’s in Yemen? Was there an alliance between the original E-V32 Madhiban and the J1? Or were the original Madhiban the J1 and E-V32 assimilated.

For the E-V32 Madhiban I can download their BAM files and it’ll cost 100 each kit? $200 total. There are 2 E-V32 Madhiban on yfull. I am willing to help pay some of the cost. I know @Malawax offered. Are you willing to help too@Karl?
 
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BluSkee said:
Thanks for pointing that out haven’t checked! I’m wondering if this is permanent or temporary as the live feed is the same as b4?

J-Y179455 YTree

www.yfull.com www.yfull.com

Have you found another person from your jilib you can test? That would help with understanding the connections better. So far for the J1 we have 3 Tumaal, 1 confirmed Madhiban which is your kit, and the Reer Duad who have not confirmed they are Madhiban.

We have another Reer Daud J1 that wants to upgrade on FTDNA but he is one of the Reer Daud that says he is not Madhiban. We need a Reer Duad elder to sort this out man😂.

Was Madhiban an actual person or was it a town like you have suggested that’s in Yemen? Was there an alliance between the original E-V32 Madhiban and the J1? Or were the original Madhiban the J1 and E-V32 assimilated.

For the E-V32 Madhiban I can download their BAM files and it’ll cost 100 each kit? $200 total. There are 2 E-V32 Madhiban on yfull. I am willing to help pay some of the cost. I know @Malawax offered. Are you willing to help too@Karl?
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One madhibaan E-V32 is enough. Only one T2T is enough to do the magic.
 
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