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Big Y DNA test needed from certain clans

ASC to all.

I want you to check you mobile yfull site. On my phone, i can see a yfull update (Not on my PC)

Our Grand Awoowe is now 3000 years.(E-Y18629)
The new Super clade is also 3000 years (E-Y484733)
My Awoowe is now 850 years (E-Y163949]
Bulletproof Awoowe E-BY8081 is 1000 years.

Sorry @Bulletproof your clade is still at 350.


Disclaimer: Don't know if this is a glitch or real..
 
Koombe. said:
ASC to all.

I want you to check you mobile yfull site. On my phone, i can see a yfull update (Not on my PC)

Our Grand Awoowe is now 3000 years.(E-Y18629)
The new Super clade is also 3000 years (E-Y484733)
My Awoowe is now 850 years (E-Y163949]
Bulletproof Awoowe E-BY8081 is 1000 years.

Sorry @Bulletproof your clade is still at 350.


Disclaimer: Don't know if this is a glitch or real..
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Let me digest this :mjgrin:

It’s crazy :lab-cooking:
 
The “supposed” Darood lineeage E-Y163949 is now 850 years old.

The branch with the Hiiraab samples is 1000 years old. Has the potential to get younger. Brand new Duduble sample is on the way so it could improve accuracy

Awoowe Samaale that used to unite majority of E-V32 Somalis is now 3000 years old. Used to be 2600

The Awoowe of MJ, Sabdi and Forculus is now 1000 years old

The supposed new “Hawiye” branch that connects Hiiraab with MJ and Murusade is 3000 years old. Kind of disappointed 🤣

The super branch that connected Habar awal, Jiiraan Koombe with us E-Y18637 guys could be the reason why the age has increased. Must have been the main driving factor.
 
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I have to pay for return shipping for nebula, I can’t send it via the post box like other kits
 
gacale said:
I have to pay for return shipping for nebula, I can’t send it via the post box like other kits
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Yes I did the same. Only USA people have it lucky. Rest have to pay shipping.
 
Awoowe E-Y18629 is only 1802 years away from me. The 3000 year old TRMC is driven by Mudulood, MJ and other clans that accumulated a lot of SNP because of multiplying in population in a very short time. @Malawax what do you think?

Sabdi and forculus
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@Mcmoud72 @Koombe. check “age estimate” . What do you get for E-Y18629
 
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@BluSkee J-Haplogroup also had an update where ours got younger. The Tumaal-Madhibaan relation are getting closer. This changes the timeline when the current relation between the two restarted.
Here is the old and new version
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Unfortunately, the Madhibaan E-32 had no changes due to the lack of a T2T update. I will try to contact the brothers again, but unfortunately, they were not active on social media.

Muse did change, however, as the two brothers have formed one clade family with another brother at the top. I'm not sure if he was Muse or Tumaal.
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Bulletproof said:
That’s a 200 year old drop.
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it might go down if i update mine soon.
 
Karl said:
@BluSkee J-Haplogroup also had an update where ours got younger. The Tumaal-Madhibaan relation are getting closer. This changes the timeline when the current relation between the two restarted.
Here is the old and new version
Screenshot 2024-04-25 at 1.13.52 PM.pngScreenshot 2024-04-25 at 1.08.49 PM.png
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Thanks for pointing that out haven’t checked! I’m wondering if this is permanent or temporary as the live feed is the same as b4?

J-Y179455 YTree

www.yfull.com www.yfull.com

Have you found another person from your jilib you can test? That would help with understanding the connections better. So far for the J1 we have 3 Tumaal, 1 confirmed Madhiban which is your kit, and the Reer Duad who have not confirmed they are Madhiban.

We have another Reer Daud J1 that wants to upgrade on FTDNA but he is one of the Reer Daud that says he is not Madhiban. We need a Reer Duad elder to sort this out man😂.

Was Madhiban an actual person or was it a town like you have suggested that’s in Yemen? Was there an alliance between the original E-V32 Madhiban and the J1? Or were the original Madhiban the J1 and E-V32 assimilated.

For the E-V32 Madhiban I can download their BAM files and it’ll cost 100 each kit? $200 total. There are 2 E-V32 Madhiban on yfull. I am willing to help pay some of the cost. I know @Malawax offered. Are you willing to help too@Karl?
 
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BluSkee said:
Thanks for pointing that out haven’t checked! I’m wondering if this is permanent or temporary as the live feed is the same as b4?

J-Y179455 YTree

www.yfull.com www.yfull.com

Have you found another person from your jilib you can test? That would help with understanding the connections better. So far for the J1 we have 3 Tumaal, 1 confirmed Madhiban which is your kit, and the Reer Duad who have not confirmed they are Madhiban.

We have another Reer Daud J1 that wants to upgrade on FTDNA but he is one of the Reer Daud that says he is not Madhiban. We need a Reer Duad elder to sort this out man😂.

Was Madhiban an actual person or was it a town like you have suggested that’s in Yemen? Was there an alliance between the original E-V32 Madhiban and the J1? Or were the original Madhiban the J1 and E-V32 assimilated.

For the E-V32 Madhiban I can download their BAM files and it’ll cost 100 each kit? $200 total. There are 2 E-V32 Madhiban on yfull. I am willing to help pay some of the cost. I know @Malawax offered. Are you willing to help too@Karl?
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One madhibaan E-V32 is enough. Only one T2T is enough to do the magic.
 
Bulletproof said:
Awoowe E-Y18629 is only 1802 years away from me. The 3000 year old TRMC is driven by Mudulood, MJ and other clans that accumulated a lot of SNP because of multiplying in population in a very short time. @Malawax what do you think?

Sabdi and forculus
IMG_4683.jpegIMG_4684.jpeg

@Mcmoud72 @Koombe. check “age estimate” . What do you get for E-Y18629
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Bulletproof said:
Awoowe E-Y18629 is only 1802 years away from me. The 3000 year old TRMC is driven by Mudulood, MJ and other clans that accumulated a lot of SNP because of multiplying in population in a very short time. @Malawax what do you think?

Sabdi and forculus
IMG_4683.jpegIMG_4684.jpeg

@Mcmoud72 @Koombe. check “age estimate” . What do you get for E-Y18629
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I will do it Tomorrow Insha Allah
 
BluSkee said:
Thanks for pointing that out haven’t checked! I’m wondering if this is permanent or temporary as the live feed is the same as b4?

J-Y179455 YTree

www.yfull.com www.yfull.com

Have you found another person from your jilib you can test? That would help with understanding the connections better. So far for the J1 we have 3 Tumaal, 1 confirmed Madhiban which is your kit, and the Reer Duad who have not confirmed they are Madhiban.

We have another Reer Daud J1 that wants to upgrade on FTDNA but he is one of the Reer Daud that says he is not Madhiban. We need a Reer Duad elder to sort this out man😂.

Was Madhiban an actual person or was it a town like you have suggested that’s in Yemen? Was there an alliance between the original E-V32 Madhiban and the J1? Or were the original Madhiban the J1 and E-V32 assimilated.

For the E-V32 Madhiban I can download their BAM files and it’ll cost 100 each kit? $200 total. There are 2 E-V32 Madhiban on yfull. I am willing to help pay some of the cost. I know @Malawax offered. Are you willing to help too@Karl?
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No, a bit had to find people who are willing to take the test.

3 confirmed Madhibaan, if Reer daud aren't Madhibaan, count in me as Chinese. :LOL:

Sheikh Madhie is buried in Sool. He was as real as anyone else. The Madhibaan people have a long history of residing in the north, so it's likely that some Sabaeans or other Arabian traders moved toward the Madhibaan who were already living there. This is why I want Af Collwa to be tested; it could help us understand how old the Madhibaan identity is.(y)

Yes, let me know when you will do so. i am willing to pay 25% for one of the brothers(y)
 
Karl said:
No, a bit had to find people who are willing to take the test.

3 confirmed Madhibaan, if Reer daud aren't Madhibaan, count in me as Chinese. :LOL:

Sheikh Madhie is buried in Sool. He was as real as anyone else. The Madhibaan people have a long history of residing in the north, so it's likely that some Sabaeans or other Arabian traders moved toward the Madhibaan who were already living there. This is why I want Af Collwa to be tested; it could help us understand how old the Madhibaan identity is.(y)

Yes, let me know when you will do so. i am willing to pay 25% for one of the brothers(y)
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Af Callowa is most likely af Harlad or related. Would be great to test and compare for sure! Sabaean and Minaean are also related it seems. I’m grateful for what we have learned so far and hopeful we will gain more knowledge.

But Reer Daud are disputed bro😂. Did you talk to the Reer Daud guy on yfull? We did and he says otherwise.

But I understand that some of the J1 probably settled with Madhiban E-V32 but I am not the one to decide who is what tribe. I’m just going by what they share and these dna findings.

Insha Allah as for the upgrade to T2T maybe we will start with 1 upgrade for now for the one ending in 10 insha Allah.
 
Can I not doing via Royal Mail?
 
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